Gay Men Owe Women…Nothing

Rose McGowan from the vapid and adolescent TV series ‘Charmed’ stated for the record that, “Gay men are as misogynistic as straight men, if not more so…I have an indictment of the gay community right now, I’m actually really upset with them.”

I’ve been reading more and more of these ‘indictments’ against gay men and their supposed obligation to support third wave feminism so I am going to use some of McGowan’s statements to address these absurd claims. Here we go…

“You wanna talk about the fact that I have heard nobody in the gay community, no gay males, standing up for women on any level?”

Your personal experiences, especially as an affluent celebrity, have absolutely no bearing on and are in no way representative of the typical American experience. Nor are they an effective barometer of the socio-political relationship between gay men and women activists. In other words, just because you haven’t heard anything doesn’t mean it isn’t happening, the world does not revolve around you. Granted, this is really difficult for American and European feminists to understand, especially due to their fixation on identity politics.

“There is Sharia law active in Saudi Arabia, there’s a woman who’s about to be stoned – I have not heard [AIDS activist] Cleve Jones discuss her, and nor will he.”

First, the people most responsible for the rights of Saudi women are Saudis. Also, I don’t know who Cleve Jones is but he is not obligated to speak out for anyone, nor is any gay man. Gay men, just like everyone else, may identify or not identify with any group they choose.

Personally, I do not ‘identify’ with the gay community in any sociopolitical way. My persona is much deeper than that and I do not feel a rush of camaraderie with another man simply because they too love men.

In addition, why are gay men being targeted here? How is it gay men are more obliged to support the rights of Saudi women (or any women) than straight men? Or black men? Or bisexual or trans men? How exactly does this hierarchy of concern work? As usual, these feminist concerns are as arbitrary as they are without merit.

“I think it’s what happens to you as a group when you are starting to get most of what you fought for? What do you do now?”

Again, why is it the job of gay men to ‘fight’ for anything? Where does this very arbitrary and entitled assertion stem from? This conclusion remains tethered to the notion that if you’re a minority you must identify with and fight for all other minorities – in essence, it enslaves every individual to the will and ends of the group.

This is identity politics at its core, the reduction of individuals to a physical characteristic or non-physical attribute and subsuming their rights, desires, and aspirations under those of a collective. Why do this? I supposed it is one way to psychologically manipulate people into supporting a cause, in other words, what McGowan does with these lines.

I might add that globally, gay men remain one among the single most targeted minorities. Further, am I to infer that women in America have not gotten ‘most of what they fought for’? Women can vote, work, go to school, divorce, get abortions, run for political office, travel unchaperoned, own property or a business, drive, and inherit wealth.

 “What I would hope they would do is extend a hand to women.”

So tired of repeating this, no one owes anyone anything in this regard. Gay men as a group do not owe women anything as a group and vice versa.

“Women, by-and-large, have very much helped the gay community get to where they are today.”

Actually gay men and gay women have definitively and demonstrably done the bulk of the footwork on gay rights, with meaningful and substantial contributions by straight folk. That being said, regardless of women’s contributions to the cause, nothing would entitle them to the aid of gay men in their own, especially if it was only for the sake of reciprocity. It’s worth mentioning here that gay rights benefit everyone, including women, straight or otherwise, so I’m not sure what you’re so upset about.

“And I have seen not a single peep from these people, who supposedly represent lesbians as well… when the equal pay act was shut down by Republicans in the Senate, not a single man mentioned that.”

Evidence of absolutely nothing. Done.

Lastly, I want to address something not mentioned by McGowan but by others, namely this recent trend of attacking gay men for impersonating the personas of ‘strong black women’. People can impersonate and act like anyone they choose, get the fuck over it. I haven’t heard any of these people complain about the impersonation of poor rednecks or valley girls.






One Comment on “Gay Men Owe Women…Nothing

  1. The first and second waves of feminism brought women the right to vote, greater financial independence from their husbands, more leeway to get out of bad marriages, and more leeway in how to dress including more comfortable clothes. But the third wave has thrown all that away for post-modern bullshit.


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